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		<title>Greek Sentence 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 05:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>NoCoolName_Tom</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So it&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve been able to work on my Ancient Greek and I&#8217;m really feeling it. So I figure I&#8217;ll go through a sentence here every couple days (I&#8217;d say every day, but what happens if I miss a day?). Tonight the randomly selected sentence is οὐκ ἂν ἀφείην ὁπόσους ἂν [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve been able to work on my Ancient Greek and I&#8217;m <em>really</em> feeling it.  So I figure I&#8217;ll go through a sentence here every couple days (I&#8217;d say every day, but what happens if I miss a day?).</p>
<p>Tonight the randomly selected sentence is</p>
<blockquote><p>οὐκ ἂν ἀφείην ὁπόσους ἂν ἕλωμεν πρὶν ἂν χρήματα δῶσιν.</p></blockquote>
<p><span id="more-650"></span></p>
<h4>Just Thinking</h4>
<p>Okay, so upon just looking at the sentence I can see only a few words I know.  So depressing!  Without looking anything up, here&#8217;s my thoughts:</p>
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<td>οὐκ</td>
<td>&#8220;not, no, negation&#8221;</td>
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<tr>
<td>ἂν</td>
<td>This word is untranslatable, but is used (somehow! Argh!) with optatives generally, right?</td>
</tr>
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<td>ἀφείην</td>
<td>A verb, right?</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>ὁπόσους</td>
<td>Looks like a noun, plural masculine accusative.</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>ἕλωμεν</td>
<td>A verb (1st Person plural indicative?) ?</td>
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<td>πρὶν</td>
<td>A preposition, right? </td>
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<td>χρήματα</td>
<td>Neuter (from the -ματα) plural nominative?  Burning? Krhmata ~ cremation?</td>
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<p>Well *that* was depressing!</p>
<h4>Liddel &#038; Scott</h4>
<p>Now I&#8217;ll look up what I don&#8217;t know in my Middle Liddel.</p>
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<td>ἀφείην</td>
<td>Seems to be from ἀφίημι? Aha! This form is listed as an optative. I don&#8217;t remember optative endings.  I&#8217;ll guess 1st Person singular. Upon working on the next words, maybe it&#8217;s plural. Means &#8220;Let go, free&#8221;?</td>
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<td>ὁπόσους</td>
<td>Adjective, from ὁμόσος, &#8220;as great as&#8221;</td>
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<td>ἕλωμεν</td>
<td>Having trouble finding this one.</td>
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<td>πρὶν</td>
<td>adverb: <em>before, until<em></td>
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<td>χρήματα</td>
<td>Not finding this one.</td>
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<td>δῶσιν</td>
<td>Verb, 3rd Person plural?  Can&#8217;t find it either.</td>
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<p><br/></p>
<h4>Perseus</h4>
<p>The end-all-be-all of finding this stuff: the <a href="http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph">Perseus Project Word Study Tool</a>.</p>
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<td>ἀφείην</td>
<td>Verb, 1 Person singular, aorist optative = &#8220;I might have let go&#8221;</td>
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<td>ἕλωμεν</td>
<td>Verb, 1 Person plural aorist subjunctive active = &#8220;We may have taken&#8221;</td>
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<td>χρήματα</td>
<td>from χράομαι (should have looked with an α as well as a η!), noun, pl neuter nom/acc = &#8220;possessions&#8221;</td>
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<td>δῶσιν</td>
<td>Verb, from δίδωμι, 3rd Person pl aorist subjunctive active = &#8220;they may have given/granted&#8221;</td>
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<h3>Putting It Together</h3>
<blockquote><p>οὐκ ἂν ἀφείην ὁπόσους ἂν ἕλωμεν πρὶν ἂν χρήματα δῶσιν.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not (ἂν) I might have let go as many as (ἂν) we may have taken before (ἂν) possessions they may have given.</p>
<p><strong>I would not have let as many go free as we might have taken until they had given possessions.</strong></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not very happy with this sentence.  I feel I&#8217;ve got the general gist of it (probably some sort of promise), but the details are messed up.  Optatives do screwy things like express wishes or intent and this sentence is full of them.  Why or why can&#8217;t people just use the indicative?  So I think the sentence is generally expressing some sort of promise about not letting as many go as they had taken before they (the enemy I presume?) have given them property.</p>
<p>Oh well.  The more I do this, the better (and faster) I&#8217;ll get.</p>
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		<title>Faux-WordPress Plugin Note I</title>
		<link>http://blog.doggetto.com/2010/02/faux-wordpress-note/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 20:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>NoCoolName_Tom</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is mostly just for my own notes, because this will come up later in the project. To allow a plugin for spam modification in my plugin, I need to abstract out a few things: The comment to be posted is given to an abstract checking function. This checking function in turn calls the plugin&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is mostly just for my own notes, because this will come up later in the project.<span id="more-585"></span></p>
<p>To allow a plugin for spam modification in my plugin, I need to abstract out a few things:<br />
The comment to be posted is given to an abstract checking function.  This checking function in turn calls the plugin&#8217;s checking function. (This is like the sfGuard login function which can either run default or turn over login functionality to another function for such things as LDAP login).</p>
<p>The plugin has a few options for how it responds, all of which I should try to allow for:
<ol>
<li>It will set the comment as ham</li>
<li>It will set the comment as spam</li>
<li>It will run a secondary process to determine the humanity of the poster</li>
</ol>
<p>After the comments are automatically dealt with, the user may change the results somewhat.  The plugin will probably want to report on these changes.
<ol>
<li>User changed spam to ham (incorrectly marked as spam)</li>
<li>User changed ham to spam (incorrectly marked as ham)</li>
</ol>
<p>There are probably three spam filters that I would make use of:
<ul>
<li><a href="http://akismet.com/development/">Akismet</a></li>
<li><a href="http://antispam.typepad.com/info/developers.html">Typepad AntiSpam</a></li>
<li><a href="http://mollom.com/api">Mollum</a></li>
</ul>
<p>I should focus on these three and make certain that each one of them can be turned off/on with nothing more than changing the app&#8217;s config file.</p>
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		<title>Slowly Slowly Dying</title>
		<link>http://blog.doggetto.com/2009/07/slowly-slowly-dying/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 20:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>NoCoolName_Tom</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The lack of updates is a combination between laziness last week and complete and utter exhaustion this week. I have a HUGE project due at work that needs to be finished before August 1st. And, right now, even pulling long days I&#8217;m not entirely optimistic about reaching that. I&#8217;m working hard, so we&#8217;ll see. In [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/billward/"><img src="/wp-content/uploads/soccer_dying.jpg" alt="To an Athlete Dying Young" title="To an Athlete Dying Young" width="232" height="250" class="content-img" /></a>
<p class="intro">The lack of updates is a combination between laziness last week and complete and utter exhaustion this week.  I have a HUGE project due at work that needs to be finished before August 1st.  And, right now, even pulling long days I&#8217;m not entirely optimistic about reaching that.  I&#8217;m working <em>hard</em>, so we&#8217;ll see.</p>
<p>In the other, slightly related, news I&#8217;m attending the Sunstone Symposium this year (gasp!).  We&#8217;ll see if it&#8217;s as crazy/apostate/awesome/spiritual as I&#8217;ve heard it described as.  I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll have things to say on my blog about it.  I say it&#8217;s related as if we don&#8217;t make this deadline I&#8217;m not really certain about my ability to attend.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s about it.</p>
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		<title>My New Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.doggetto.com/2009/06/my-new-blog/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>NoCoolName_Tom</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, yeah, I've bit the bullet and started a blog.]]></description>
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<p class="intro">So, yeah, I&#8217;ve bit the bullet and started a blog.  The rest of my website currently sucks, but I&#8217;ve finally gotten the blog up and running, which I&#8217;m very proud of.</p>
<p>Here I will write notes about myself, about the web tech I use, and about all sorts of other things.<span id="more-12"></span> You are, of course, free to peruse, comment on, and make use of anything here.  These blog posts are, unless otherwise noted, under a <a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/us/">Creative Commons License</a>.</p>
<p class="intro">As I am both an active Mormon and an armchair historian/theologian many of the posts here will probably go along that route.  You can find all of the available stuff by category in the sidebar to the left (yeah, I know it&#8217;s not there yet, but it will be).</p>
<p class="intro">Anyways, hope that explains everything.  The main webpage (available through the &#8220;Home&#8221; and other links above and below) will hopefully have more on them soon.</p>
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